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		<title>Comment on Call for programmers by Bethany</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2007/08/05/call-for-programmers/#comment-42560</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ben, I haven't even taken the time to read your whole post, and as this is the first time I'm checking this blog, I'm not sure what you're looking for.

But I may have found it anyway. :)

Check out http://www.familypursuit.com/. It is in beta and still free. I will send you an invite so you can check it out.

Also, I'll let you know I wrote this, as I see the post is over a year old and I found it through the archieves.

Bethany</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, I haven&#8217;t even taken the time to read your whole post, and as this is the first time I&#8217;m checking this blog, I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re looking for.</p>
<p>But I may have found it anyway. :)</p>
<p>Check out <a href='http://www.familypursuit.com/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.familypursuit.com/</a>. It is in beta and still free. I will send you an invite so you can check it out.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ll let you know I wrote this, as I see the post is over a year old and I found it through the archieves.</p>
<p>Bethany
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		<title>Comment on PAF 2.3.1 has arrived by Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/02/16/paf-231-has-arrived/#comment-35071</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/02/16/paf-231-has-arrived/#comment-35071</guid>
					<description>I talked to the people at the Church -- go to familysearchlabs.org, go to the blog, and leave a comment.  That's probably the easiest way. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I talked to the people at the Church &#8212; go to familysearchlabs.org, go to the blog, and leave a comment.  That&#8217;s probably the easiest way. :)
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		<title>Comment on PAF 2.3.1 has arrived by Hal Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/02/16/paf-231-has-arrived/#comment-34338</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 17:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/02/16/paf-231-has-arrived/#comment-34338</guid>
					<description>How did you get your PAF cd and where? I can’t find one! Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you get your PAF cd and where? I can’t find one! Thanks
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		<title>Comment on The new FamilySearch by New FamilySearch to Advance Temple Work &#124; LDS Temple Study Blog - Sustaining and Defending the LDS (Mormon) Temple</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/06/12/the-new-familysearch/#comment-28809</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/06/12/the-new-familysearch/#comment-28809</guid>
					<description>[...] Print temple ordinance cards at home1 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Print temple ordinance cards at home1 [&#8230;]
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		<title>Comment on Smart pedigrees by James</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/09/28/smart-pedigrees/#comment-26491</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/09/28/smart-pedigrees/#comment-26491</guid>
					<description>In reference to the comment by Mark Butler regarding visualizing subtrees of persons or families within the family tree. There is a paper written, and an accompanying demo built, by two computer graphics/information visualization professors at University of Toronto. Both are highly recommended if you are interested in the topic. 

www.dgp.toronto.edu/~ravin/papers/infovis2005_geneology.pdf 
http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~ravin/videos/infovis2005_geneology.avi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reference to the comment by Mark Butler regarding visualizing subtrees of persons or families within the family tree. There is a paper written, and an accompanying demo built, by two computer graphics/information visualization professors at University of Toronto. Both are highly recommended if you are interested in the topic. </p>
<p><a href='http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~ravin/papers/infovis2005_geneology.pdf' rel='nofollow'>www.dgp.toronto.edu/~ravin/papers/infovis2005_geneology.pdf</a><br />
<a href='http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~ravin/videos/infovis2005_geneology.avi' rel='nofollow'>http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~ravin/videos/infovis2005_geneology.avi</a>
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		<title>Comment on Genealogy sparklines by Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/08/14/genealogy-sparklines/#comment-21785</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/08/14/genealogy-sparklines/#comment-21785</guid>
					<description>I like that idea of aligning the marriage dots.  I'd say that the marriage sparkline should be placed in between the two lines rather than beneath them, though.  (And it ought to be light, or else it should be dark and the other two lines light, for contrast.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that idea of aligning the marriage dots.  I&#8217;d say that the marriage sparkline should be placed in between the two lines rather than beneath them, though.  (And it ought to be light, or else it should be dark and the other two lines light, for contrast.)
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		<title>Comment on Genealogy sparklines by Eptin</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/08/14/genealogy-sparklines/#comment-20661</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/08/14/genealogy-sparklines/#comment-20661</guid>
					<description>This is a very good use of Sparklines. I especially like the idea of having little footnotes with corresponding sparklines for each person. I would suggest that the footnote sparklines be aligned so that the marriage dots for the husband and wife would be aligned. This way, not only can you see the two timelines in synchronous, you could also see who is younger and by how much, as well as who died first and by how much sooner than the spouse.
Additionally, a third sparkline of the marriage could be shown directly beneath the husband and wife’s sparklines.

- Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very good use of Sparklines. I especially like the idea of having little footnotes with corresponding sparklines for each person. I would suggest that the footnote sparklines be aligned so that the marriage dots for the husband and wife would be aligned. This way, not only can you see the two timelines in synchronous, you could also see who is younger and by how much, as well as who died first and by how much sooner than the spouse.<br />
Additionally, a third sparkline of the marriage could be shown directly beneath the husband and wife’s sparklines.</p>
<p>- Michael
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		<title>Comment on A new face to genealogy by Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2007/07/12/a-new-face-to-genealogy/#comment-20393</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2007/07/12/a-new-face-to-genealogy/#comment-20393</guid>
					<description>Jay: If it's going to be closed source, then it should at least be free like Google or Facebook or Flickr.

Danno: C'mon, graphic design doesn't cost &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; much.  And just having the cash doesn't necessarily mean you'll end up with good design. :)

Andy: It's a nice beginning, but it's rather slow and not all that appealing aesthetically.  (Facebook apps need to fit in with the Facebook look; iFamilyTree doesn't.)  Perhaps with a redesign and some optimization...

Ray: We're not saying that Facebook itself ought to be a genealogy database app; the sources and ancestor info would go within the app itself, not on Facebook proper.  There's a difference. :)  I'm not so sure that a site like this necessarily needs to start as a genealogy app -- it could, certainly, but I could see it just as easily going the other way round.  In fact, genealogy from a social networking perspective would open up new ideas and attitudes that we haven't even thought of yet.  I say it ought to be explored thoroughly before we dismiss it out of hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay: If it&#8217;s going to be closed source, then it should at least be free like Google or Facebook or Flickr.</p>
<p>Danno: C&#8217;mon, graphic design doesn&#8217;t cost <i>that</i> much.  And just having the cash doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean you&#8217;ll end up with good design. :)</p>
<p>Andy: It&#8217;s a nice beginning, but it&#8217;s rather slow and not all that appealing aesthetically.  (Facebook apps need to fit in with the Facebook look; iFamilyTree doesn&#8217;t.)  Perhaps with a redesign and some optimization&#8230;</p>
<p>Ray: We&#8217;re not saying that Facebook itself ought to be a genealogy database app; the sources and ancestor info would go within the app itself, not on Facebook proper.  There&#8217;s a difference. :)  I&#8217;m not so sure that a site like this necessarily needs to start as a genealogy app &#8212; it could, certainly, but I could see it just as easily going the other way round.  In fact, genealogy from a social networking perspective would open up new ideas and attitudes that we haven&#8217;t even thought of yet.  I say it ought to be explored thoroughly before we dismiss it out of hand.
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		<title>Comment on A new face to genealogy by Ray Gurganus</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2007/07/12/a-new-face-to-genealogy/#comment-19954</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 04:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2007/07/12/a-new-face-to-genealogy/#comment-19954</guid>
					<description>I'll repeat what I've said in replies to other messages here...  It may look nice, but facebook is still not a genealogy database application for documenting family history.  I don't see anywhere to enter sources (what is genealogy without sources?)... it requires a valid email address per person - how many ancestors do you know who have email?  I could go on....  

I believe a system such as this needs to start with a full featured genealogy system, and add social networking features, rather than a social networking site adding bits and pieces of a genealogy application.  See the site I have put together (and continue to upgrade) - it has all of the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll repeat what I&#8217;ve said in replies to other messages here&#8230;  It may look nice, but facebook is still not a genealogy database application for documenting family history.  I don&#8217;t see anywhere to enter sources (what is genealogy without sources?)&#8230; it requires a valid email address per person - how many ancestors do you know who have email?  I could go on&#8230;.  </p>
<p>I believe a system such as this needs to start with a full featured genealogy system, and add social networking features, rather than a social networking site adding bits and pieces of a genealogy application.  See the site I have put together (and continue to upgrade) - it has all of the above.
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		<title>Comment on A new face to genealogy by Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2007/07/12/a-new-face-to-genealogy/#comment-19934</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2007/07/12/a-new-face-to-genealogy/#comment-19934</guid>
					<description>Guys,

Take a look at http://apps.facebook.com/ifamilytree/
They are killing it on Facebook and have alot of the functionality described herein.  I have spoken to the developer and all the other things requested here (like Gedgcom Import)are on the way.   The site can also be accessed at www.ifamily.com.

Have fun with it..I have found it quite addictive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,</p>
<p>Take a look at <a href='http://apps.facebook.com/ifamilytree/' rel='nofollow'>http://apps.facebook.com/ifamilytree/</a><br />
They are killing it on Facebook and have alot of the functionality described herein.  I have spoken to the developer and all the other things requested here (like Gedgcom Import)are on the way.   The site can also be accessed at <a href='http://www.ifamily.com.' rel='nofollow'>www.ifamily.com.</a></p>
<p>Have fun with it..I have found it quite addictive!
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