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	<title>Comments on: Linker proof-of-concept</title>
	<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/12/27/linker-proof-of-concept/</link>
	<description>Genealogy anywhere.</description>
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		<title>by: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/12/27/linker-proof-of-concept/#comment-8895</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Lately the project has been somewhat dead in the water, with no real code yet.  But it's more of a hibernation.  Hopefully I'll be able to start pulling things together soon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lately the project has been somewhat dead in the water, with no real code yet.  But it&#8217;s more of a hibernation.  Hopefully I&#8217;ll be able to start pulling things together soon&#8230;
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		<title>by: carl tanner</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/12/27/linker-proof-of-concept/#comment-8780</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 19:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/12/27/linker-proof-of-concept/#comment-8780</guid>
					<description>This is a great idea.  Non-tech people will like it.  besides wishing to document my own family, right now I am working on a similar project, pedigrees for horses, which includes a family tree.  I have been just skimming beyondproject.org.  Is this project in rails?  If so, I would love to contribute some help and or code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great idea.  Non-tech people will like it.  besides wishing to document my own family, right now I am working on a similar project, pedigrees for horses, which includes a family tree.  I have been just skimming beyondproject.org.  Is this project in rails?  If so, I would love to contribute some help and or code.
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		<title>by: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/12/27/linker-proof-of-concept/#comment-7254</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/12/27/linker-proof-of-concept/#comment-7254</guid>
					<description>As for popup v. overlay div (by overlay div I'm assuming you mean something like Fluxiom's panel that slides out from the bottom and then slides back in when you're done), either would work, I think.  It might be kind of weird having a panel slide out on top of the people-strip at the bottom, but then again it might not.  Hmm.

Good call on the amodality, or whatever one would call it. :)  How about this: if you're authorized to make changes, then when you hover over the fields, they get outlined, and when you click on them they turn into edit boxes (like in Google Calendar).  Simple, unobtrusive, and ever-present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for popup v. overlay div (by overlay div I&#8217;m assuming you mean something like Fluxiom&#8217;s panel that slides out from the bottom and then slides back in when you&#8217;re done), either would work, I think.  It might be kind of weird having a panel slide out on top of the people-strip at the bottom, but then again it might not.  Hmm.</p>
<p>Good call on the amodality, or whatever one would call it. :)  How about this: if you&#8217;re authorized to make changes, then when you hover over the fields, they get outlined, and when you click on them they turn into edit boxes (like in Google Calendar).  Simple, unobtrusive, and ever-present.
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		<title>by: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/12/27/linker-proof-of-concept/#comment-7235</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 07:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/12/27/linker-proof-of-concept/#comment-7235</guid>
					<description>When I think 'popup', I'm definitely thinking lightbox-style (div in the current document) vs a real popup window.

More thoughts on workflow: I want to have fewer specific modes.  I don't want to distinguish between a view mode and an edit mode of the same data.  So there's a single family view, and if I'm authorized to make changes, then edit controls are visible.  Part of the edit controls is a palette of individuals that I can drag from and add to the current view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I think &#8216;popup&#8217;, I&#8217;m definitely thinking lightbox-style (div in the current document) vs a real popup window.</p>
<p>More thoughts on workflow: I want to have fewer specific modes.  I don&#8217;t want to distinguish between a view mode and an edit mode of the same data.  So there&#8217;s a single family view, and if I&#8217;m authorized to make changes, then edit controls are visible.  Part of the edit controls is a palette of individuals that I can drag from and add to the current view.
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		<title>by: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/12/27/linker-proof-of-concept/#comment-7053</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/12/27/linker-proof-of-concept/#comment-7053</guid>
					<description>Good point.  I like the idea of a 'new person' button, at least from the sound of it.  (I realize now that I need to think more thoroughly about the workflow. :))  Anyway,  a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;lightbox-style&lt;/a&gt; dialog would probably be the least intrusive.  Having a real popup would be of a pain, and it would get blocked often.  Here's a (really) quick mockup of the lightbox idea:
 
&lt;a class=&quot;imagelink&quot; href=&quot;http://www.beyondproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/Linker-Add.png&quot; title=&quot;Linker&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img id=&quot;image149&quot; src=&quot;http://www.beyondproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/Linker-Add-Small.png&quot; alt=&quot;Linker&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Disclaimer: I don't actually think that an &quot;Add person&quot; dialog should look like this.  In fact, I still don't know what one should look like.  More to come later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point.  I like the idea of a &#8216;new person&#8217; button, at least from the sound of it.  (I realize now that I need to think more thoroughly about the workflow. :))  Anyway,  a <a href="http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox/" rel="nofollow">lightbox-style</a> dialog would probably be the least intrusive.  Having a real popup would be of a pain, and it would get blocked often.  Here&#8217;s a (really) quick mockup of the lightbox idea:</p>
<p><a class="imagelink" href="http://www.beyondproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/Linker-Add.png" title="Linker" rel="nofollow"><img id="image149" src="http://www.beyondproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/Linker-Add-Small.png" alt="Linker" /></a></p>
<p>Disclaimer: I don&#8217;t actually think that an &#8220;Add person&#8221; dialog should look like this.  In fact, I still don&#8217;t know what one should look like.  More to come later.
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		<title>by: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/12/27/linker-proof-of-concept/#comment-6948</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/12/27/linker-proof-of-concept/#comment-6948</guid>
					<description>I agree the drag-and-drop linking is a good idea.  I disagree about the workflow: enter individuals then link them together.  That seems too modal, and constrains the user.

Not sure of the mechanics, but what I'd like is the ability to add new individuals and link them within the same view -- so when I suddenly think of someone else I want to link it, I don't have to leave the flow of what I was doing.

Maybe that just needs to be a 'new person' button added to the view you have (along the bottom).  The trick is to make the 'new person' interface come up without taking the user out of the flow of what they were doing -- a popup window or overlay div in the current window?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree the drag-and-drop linking is a good idea.  I disagree about the workflow: enter individuals then link them together.  That seems too modal, and constrains the user.</p>
<p>Not sure of the mechanics, but what I&#8217;d like is the ability to add new individuals and link them within the same view &#8212; so when I suddenly think of someone else I want to link it, I don&#8217;t have to leave the flow of what I was doing.</p>
<p>Maybe that just needs to be a &#8216;new person&#8217; button added to the view you have (along the bottom).  The trick is to make the &#8216;new person&#8217; interface come up without taking the user out of the flow of what they were doing &#8212; a popup window or overlay div in the current window?
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