Comments on: A modest proposal http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/ Genealogy anywhere. Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:27:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0 by: Hilton http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-371 Sat, 03 Jun 2006 19:59:36 +0000 http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-371 Yeah, I was able to make it. The presentation was almost the same one he gave at the FHTW (same slides), and no, I don't think the project has a website. It was pretty good, but only confirmed that I won't really be able to use it in Genesis. Except perhaps his pedigree visualization code. It's probably completely irrelevant to Beyond. Yeah, I was able to make it. The presentation was almost the same one he gave at the FHTW (same slides), and no, I don’t think the project has a website. It was pretty good, but only confirmed that I won’t really be able to use it in Genesis. Except perhaps his pedigree visualization code. It’s probably completely irrelevant to Beyond.

]]> by: Ben http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-370 Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:50:07 +0000 http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-370 Alas, I wasn't able to make it to his proposal (though I did really want to go). Did you go? If so, how was it? Does the project have a website? Alas, I wasn’t able to make it to his proposal (though I did really want to go). Did you go? If so, how was it? Does the project have a website?

]]> by: Hilton http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-280 Tue, 30 May 2006 15:23:07 +0000 http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-280 I actually talked to Kevin on Friday about his project. He's almost finished the coding and will be proposing his thesis <a href="http://www.cs.byu.edu/feature/index.php" rel="nofollow">tomorrow</a>. Then he just needs to write the actual thesis and defend it. The project is pretty cool... it's basically a framework for doing genealogy research (with prebuilt plugins so that it functions). It currently integrates with familysearch.org for remote data. I was hoping to build off of it for Genesis, but the data model itself isn't extensible, and Kevin needs to just finish it, so he doesn't have time to change that. I actually talked to Kevin on Friday about his project. He’s almost finished the coding and will be proposing his thesis tomorrow. Then he just needs to write the actual thesis and defend it. The project is pretty cool… it’s basically a framework for doing genealogy research (with prebuilt plugins so that it functions). It currently integrates with familysearch.org for remote data. I was hoping to build off of it for Genesis, but the data model itself isn’t extensible, and Kevin needs to just finish it, so he doesn’t have time to change that.

]]> by: Ben http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-270 Mon, 29 May 2006 00:55:44 +0000 http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-270 Got a reply a few days ago: <blockquote> We are working on a PAF replacement with three key attributes. 1. It is in Java and thus portable beyond the PC 2. It is extensible. This is particularly important because we want a path for new ideas to be propagated into software without waiting years for them to get through the traditional cycle. It will be relatively easy to add new capabilities to this program without a rewrite. 3. It is based on a research process that exploits what the user already knows rather than forcing the user to copy endless amounts of information among various tools. </blockquote> Sounds cool. I don't know how far along it is, but there's definitely a potential for sharing ideas and work. (But <i>Java?</i> Come on, people, don't you read <a href="http://www.paulgraham.com/" rel="nofollow">Paul Graham</a>? Give me Ruby or Python or Lisp, anything but Java. But I digress. :)) Got a reply a few days ago:

We are working on a PAF replacement with three key attributes.

1. It is in Java and thus portable beyond the PC

2. It is extensible. This is particularly important because we want a path for new ideas to be propagated into software without waiting years for them to get through the traditional cycle. It will be relatively easy to add new capabilities to this program without a rewrite.

3. It is based on a research process that exploits what the user already knows rather than forcing the user to copy endless amounts of information among various tools.

Sounds cool. I don’t know how far along it is, but there’s definitely a potential for sharing ideas and work. (But Java? Come on, people, don’t you read Paul Graham? Give me Ruby or Python or Lisp, anything but Java. But I digress. :))

]]> by: Ben http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-149 Mon, 08 May 2006 15:53:01 +0000 http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-149 I really like the idea of having a modularized system, where you can add new plugins to hook into a site (like the Family History Library Catalog, for example). And I agree that most of what's out there doesn't do an adequate job of helping with the research process. I wonder how far along they are with this... (I haven't received a reply from Dr. Olsen yet.) I really like the idea of having a modularized system, where you can add new plugins to hook into a site (like the Family History Library Catalog, for example). And I agree that most of what’s out there doesn’t do an adequate job of helping with the research process. I wonder how far along they are with this… (I haven’t received a reply from Dr. Olsen yet.)

]]> by: Hilton http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-148 Mon, 08 May 2006 15:48:12 +0000 http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-148 I've been digging about and I found this which may be of interest. These are the <a href="http://www.fht.byu.edu/prev_workshops/workshop06/" rel="nofollow">abstracts and slides</a> from the recent Family History Technology Workshop. The second to last is the presentation on Dr. Olsen's project. I’ve been digging about and I found this which may be of interest. These are the abstracts and slides from the recent Family History Technology Workshop. The second to last is the presentation on Dr. Olsen’s project.

]]> by: Hilton http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-80 Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:54:28 +0000 http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-80 I'd be interested to know what Dr. Olsen responded. Please do tell. I’d be interested to know what Dr. Olsen responded. Please do tell.

]]> by: Ben http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-74 Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:32:21 +0000 http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-74 Thanks -- I e-mailed him a few minutes ago, so we'll see where things go. Thanks — I e-mailed him a few minutes ago, so we’ll see where things go.

]]> by: Dallan Quass http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-72 Sat, 22 Apr 2006 05:15:59 +0000 http://www.beyondproject.org/2006/04/21/a-modest-proposal/#comment-72 Don't know if I've mentioned this before - the offline client you mention sounds very similar to the client Dan Olsen (CS professor at BYU) is developing. You might want to hook up with him. He's developing it under an open-source license. Don’t know if I’ve mentioned this before - the offline client you mention sounds very similar to the client Dan Olsen (CS professor at BYU) is developing. You might want to hook up with him. He’s developing it under an open-source license.

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